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Filadams

Aftermarket flywheel cage benefits

Hello All,

After completing my first electrical mod on my stryfe, I am noticing that people seem very keen on replacing their flywheel cages. I noticed the BSUK order for red artifact cages, as well as the new worker cage with two options for wheels. What are the key benefits? Are they worth the outlay in your opinion?

My stryfe has MTB Rhinos, balanced worker wheels, mosfet rewire and 3s lipo with trimmed feed ramp, if that's relevant. Loving the power but hoping for more consistancy in shot (quite often getting whirlybirding).

Thanks!
Boff

The main thing you get from a milled cage like the Artefact ones is noise reduction. The better tolerances mean that there's less room for vibration through the plastic shell. Those tolerances in turn mean better consistency in your shots and a tighter SD on the chronograph testing.

If you're experiencing darts veering off course down range then you've probably not set your wheels correctly. A good number of those problems can be solved by watching OldNoob's excellent video on how to bring balance to your blaster. It covers pretty much everything you could want. Once you've done all of that then I'd suggest you go to a milled cage for maximum consistency and reduced noise.
OldNoob

Whirlybirds are to do with correctly set flywheels and alignment. Also remove the "rifled" faux barrel and shoot better darts. We are all shooting either 1.3g X-Tip waffles or 1.2g stacked. I use 1.2g for anything from 100-130 fps that I want a flatter trajectory on, then X tip for anything up to 160 fps.
Artifact cages offer better vibration damping and precision in manufacturing but only if the other parts of the system are built right.
Hooligan flywheels are well worth the money.
Filadams

Excellent info, thanks guys. Will have another look at my flywheels and remove the faux barrel. Probably will get a precision cage at some point, but this month's budget has gone on bsuk tactical gear Very Happy
OldNoob

You can reduce considerably the whirlybirds simply by improving alignment, which costs almost nothing. Correctly matched flywheel sets make a huge difference and quality motors help too.
Any mismatch in the rpm or contact area of the wheels as they contact the dart will result in the dart exiting at an annie and hitting the barrel wall.
I would ignore all the metal worker wheels, the design is flawed. Hooligans are the number one wheel easily. Just correctly fitting a set to a stock stryfe cage on blades made my test stryfe the most consistent shooting blaster I have ever tested.
TheDon808

I was thinking about the hooligan flywheels and the 3d printed high crush OFP cages, for my RS and stryfe, but from what OldNoob states I may just the the flywheels to start off with then look seeing if I can get a OFP flywheel cage printed locally to save the expensive postage. If i ever get the time to finish my project RS.
Franksie

Don't bother with 3D printed cages - they have variable tolerance at best
OldNoob

Printed flywheel designs are often very good, they are just the wrong material IMO. I would save that money and buy a decent CNC machined aluminium cage.
NewsonNerf

Metal cages definitely provide a higher level of consistency when it comes to performance. They increase the tolerances as mentioned earlier. Servicing the motor block is also made easier due to the screws attaching the motors into the cage. I'm my experience the metal cage also moves the point of failure (worst eventuality) to the flywheels, which if they are plastic is ideal. It removes the slight stress on the motor connections after each shot but this is very minimal.
OldNoob

Having seen 4 tag failures in two years from vibration and unbalanced wheels I would say it's not a marginal problem.
The other issue with 3d printed cages is flex. When you increase the crush you increase the load on the motor block as a dart enters the wheels, in a3d printed cage the floor of the block, regardless of how much infill there is, will flex, altering the crush and wheel geometry. An aluminium cage, particularly a more rigid alloy like 6061, won't flex, maintaining the designed properties of the cage.
Precision is not a side benefit, it is THE benefit of better tolerances in manufacture. If you can minimise ALL the other errors in play in the firing system you are only left with wonky darts, which TBH is part of the fun of Nerf. No matter how carefully you set up your expensive cage we all get the odd whirlybird due to a 4p bit of mass produced foam and rubber going through it won, which is especially amusing for your opponent.

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