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Chunking
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So I got sucked into the marketing hype and sold the bargain Orange Stryfe I bought at Asda and replaced it with an XD Orange Stryfe from Smyths (costing me about £5 for my troubles) and I have to say that Hasbro are likely to be sued in the not too distant future.  The blaster has the same SKU #A0200 as the original, not even a postfix -A that was introduced for the original blue version when it was modified to accept the older non-Elite magazine clips.  You'd think if it was beefed up from 20m to 27m then some hardware mods were implemented, aside from the battery compartment door now having the word ELITE stencilled out of the white stripe.

Anyhow, it doesn't seem to perform any worse - but £5 for masking out the word ELITE on the battery compartment door.  Nice job, Hasbro.

To cheapen the meaning of XD further, I have included a picture of the Toys R Us exclusive of the transparent Sonic Fire version of the Strongarm.  Looks quite nice, but it was introduced before the current XD version of the Strongarm which is predominantly White rather than the blue of the original.  However, please note the range has increased from 20m to 22m in keeping with the U.S. claims of 75ft for the original.  Now take a closer look and see if you spot the words Elite XD above that 22m.

I think XD stands for eXaggerated Distance.  Hasbro - credibility got flushed down the toilet with the bullshite we got fed.


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You might be able to pull them on the claims on the back of the box if you can disprove their statistics with a reasonable sized random sample but you won't get them on the max range claims. A range of "up to" 27m is just that.

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Surely you can buy two Firestrikes and sue them for false advertising? The packaging clearly indicates a range increase when the internals are actually identical.
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Topic moved to both avoid a Necro and because it's a review



On a personal note, the only thing I have found that could really shoot the distance is the Rhinofire, the massive batteries mean it can shoot much better than almost any stocker. You have to get about 30deg elevation for really long shots though.
The only other advantage of XD White is that its easier to paint over than blue!

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Seiryuu wrote:
Surely you can buy two Firestrikes and sue them for false advertising? The packaging clearly indicates a range increase when the internals are actually identical.

The key here is that, although the new box shows a higher range claim, it doesn't make any mention of it performing better than the previous model. As far as anyone's concerned, Hasbro could have just updated their box claims (like they did a while ago from 20m to 22m or from 15m to 20m in Australia). They wouldn't have marketed it like this without careful consideration by their team of lawyers.

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In legal terms, you couldn't 'sue' anyone. You would be able to render a complaint with the Office of Fair Trading through your local Trading Standards and force Hasbro to provide evidence to back up their increased range claims but since no consequential loss has occurred because of the claimed inaccuracy of these claims, you wouldn't be able to gain anything from launching a suit.

Yes, I agree that manufacturers ought to be able to back up their product claims with decent and fair evidence. However, in the real world most people don't care and will trust the manufacturer to know what they're on about. A large part of my degree (BSc Virology & Immunology) was around the problems of the pharmaceutical industry and it's fudging of evidence. That's why I'm so paranoid about providing empirical evidence where ever I can.  For example, I've gone through and fully characterised the Falcon 130 motors. I've produced open and fair trials wherever I can and allowed the public to see my method and results. They're now on sale through the website with a link back to the paper. However, I'd bet my mortgage no one has based their purchase decisions on that paper as of yet nor will they in the near future. I mostly did it because I'm interested and because I have the skills and equipment to do it. Smile



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