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Justin Andrews
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Hi,
I'd like to present my homemade Arquebus / Musket designed specifically for LARP.


( Event: Cry Havoc - historical LARP set in 1513 )

The style is modeled on a Arquebus in the Royal Armouries, dated around 1480-1500.

It's a basic metal barreled blaster which fires a Nerf Rival round. Its a fairly simple mechanism that loads by pushing down the piston using the ramrod (and uses the rainbow catch at the rear of the barrel). The lock on the side of the Arquebus takes a normal toy cap, and to get the barrel smoke, a small amount of smoke simulation powder is poured on top after the ball is loaded.

The barrel does have a fairly unique safety feature which prevents the ramrod from being fired from the Arquebus, should someone forget it is in there, and accidentally tries to fire it out. As additional safety, the ramrod has a re-enactment speed blunt fitted to the end.

Uses a main spring from Raymond Associated Springs (290mm X 27mm x 2mm Music Wire)

Fires a Rival about 15-17m, a range set intentionally as the historical effective range of an Arquebus against armour, which period sources set as "two pike length"

(Me with the first prototype)


(A group of my homemades. )

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Elime_rawne
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...awesome
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Very well done! Definitely a unique idea, and superbly executed too! How heavy are they? And, out of interest, have you experimented with rifling at all (I know it's not historically accurate, but I was curious if a metal, rifled barrel and spherical ammunition would have any effect)?

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Justin Andrews
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The barrel is a 800mm long 1.5mm thick steel tube, the stock is stained pine (the rest of the internals is all turned out of Nylon). So they have a heft to them, but are not that heavy.  

Rifling is pretty historic, first rifles were made around the turn of the 16th Century, though they did not become popular till the mid to late 18th. The main difference is that muzzle loading rifles don't (usually) use balls, instead using a hollow cone shaped projectile, with a slightly smaller diameter than the rifling of the barrel... This makes them easy to load, and when the black powder goes off, it deforms the cone, pushing it outwards to engage the rifling as it fires.

Anyway, historical musings aside, rifling is far beyond the capabilities of my rather basic little lathe. Wink

As for effect, I think experimenting with putting back spin (hop up) on the ball, to make uses of the magnus effect, might be worthwhile. Its something I'd like to look at on future versions.
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Tanithlord
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Are they spring powered or is this a plunger system. Also whats the range like on then

Many thank
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The bullet you describe is the Minie system, a cyldroconical projectile that works as described, they were invented in 1826. Prior to the 19th century most rifles used a patched ball. The patches were oiled linnen or thin leather, which reduce d the windage gap and gripped the rifling.  Later examples also used a ball with a belt cast into them, like the 1836 Brinswick rifle or even hexagonal projectiles like the Whitworth rifle.
Spin stabilising a rival ball is in theory better than spinning a dart, but requires complex and expensive machinery. Note it is perfectly legal to own and make a rifle barrel that is not chambered for a firearms cartridge in the UK.
OP, this is a cool scratch build, I like it!

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Justin Andrews
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Its a plunger system, I'm using a spring from Raymond Associated Spring to drive the piston.
Range is set to around 15-17m to match the effective real life range of an arquebus against armour (two pike length) (source here, see Duke of Alba : https://sellsword.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/firearms/ )


"Prior to the 19th century most rifles used a patched ball."
Curses, yes your right, that was indeed used by the Baker rifles after all. I think for some reason my brain jumped to the minnie being developed in the 18th century. Thanks for the correction.
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every time I see someone has built one of these before me I cry a little :'(

Though glad people are making them as it means plenty will be around by the time I actually run something that needs them, see you in ten years!



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